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	<title>Comments on: The weird and wonderful English language, how it confuses lots of network marketers, and why YOU need to be conscious of the risks</title>
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		<title>By: John Counsel</title>
		<link>http://REALnetworkmarketing.com/2009/11/weird-wonderful-english-language/comment-page-1/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>John Counsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

I just remembered an incident from several years ago when my business associate, one of Australia&#039;s best kitchen designers, and I were at the home of one of my clients.

The client had expressed interest in a new kitchen to my friend, and I chimed in with a comment that he had created a kitchen a few weeks before for one of my daughters (an interior designer) who was thrilled with the result.

After we left, my friend thanked me for edifying him to the client. This puzzled me, because edifying is something you do TO a person, directly. It&#039;s not something you do to SOMEONE ELSE about a third person. It is NOT synonymous with &quot;glorify&quot; or even &quot;honour&quot;.

When I sought clarification, it turned out that he&#039;d learned that distorted meaning from (yep, you guessed it) a visiting US sales trainer!

Like most things about the US, especially when it comes to the English language, no-one does it better... and no-one does it worse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>I just remembered an incident from several years ago when my business associate, one of Australia&#8217;s best kitchen designers, and I were at the home of one of my clients.</p>
<p>The client had expressed interest in a new kitchen to my friend, and I chimed in with a comment that he had created a kitchen a few weeks before for one of my daughters (an interior designer) who was thrilled with the result.</p>
<p>After we left, my friend thanked me for edifying him to the client. This puzzled me, because edifying is something you do TO a person, directly. It&#8217;s not something you do to SOMEONE ELSE about a third person. It is NOT synonymous with &#8220;glorify&#8221; or even &#8220;honour&#8221;.</p>
<p>When I sought clarification, it turned out that he&#8217;d learned that distorted meaning from (yep, you guessed it) a visiting US sales trainer!</p>
<p>Like most things about the US, especially when it comes to the English language, no-one does it better&#8230; and no-one does it worse!</p>
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		<title>By: John Counsel</title>
		<link>http://REALnetworkmarketing.com/2009/11/weird-wonderful-english-language/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>John Counsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even that&#039;s an example of the distorted meaning. The closest word to edify is probably &quot;enlighten&quot; and &quot;uplift&quot;... ie: to lift the spirits or the person being edified.

The problem comes from misinterpreting the intention of the word &quot;to build up&quot;, often used in dictionary entries for &quot;edify&quot;. It does NOT mean to build the person up in the eyes of others. It isn&#039;t a third party verb. It means to build them up in the sense of lifting them up in their own eyes... so that they see THEMSELVES from a more positive perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even that&#8217;s an example of the distorted meaning. The closest word to edify is probably &#8220;enlighten&#8221; and &#8220;uplift&#8221;&#8230; ie: to lift the spirits or the person being edified.</p>
<p>The problem comes from misinterpreting the intention of the word &#8220;to build up&#8221;, often used in dictionary entries for &#8220;edify&#8221;. It does NOT mean to build the person up in the eyes of others. It isn&#8217;t a third party verb. It means to build them up in the sense of lifting them up in their own eyes&#8230; so that they see THEMSELVES from a more positive perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: youlesucceed</title>
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		<dc:creator>youlesucceed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting - I was at a day long training session today - the edify word cropped up - the trainer mentioned it but indicated a preference (strong, I guess) for the use of honour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8211; I was at a day long training session today &#8211; the edify word cropped up &#8211; the trainer mentioned it but indicated a preference (strong, I guess) for the use of honour.</p>
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		<title>By: John Counsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Counsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an after-thought. Efficacy is another such word. People confuse it with efficiency and effectiveness, but it&#039;s neither.

Efficiency is doing things right.

Effectiveness is doing the right things.

Efficacy is about doing what you say you&#039;ll do. Doing the right things, in the right way, for the right reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an after-thought. Efficacy is another such word. People confuse it with efficiency and effectiveness, but it&#8217;s neither.</p>
<p>Efficiency is doing things right.</p>
<p>Effectiveness is doing the right things.</p>
<p>Efficacy is about doing what you say you&#8217;ll do. Doing the right things, in the right way, for the right reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: John Counsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Counsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Eric — one of your comments didn&#039;t show up until after a subsequent one you posted, so they may appear out of sync.

I agree with you. Edify is one of those problem words that most people never really quite know the meaning of, so they use it to mean what they THINK it means. It&#039;s an old-fashioned concept, but very precise in its true meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Eric — one of your comments didn&#8217;t show up until after a subsequent one you posted, so they may appear out of sync.</p>
<p>I agree with you. Edify is one of those problem words that most people never really quite know the meaning of, so they use it to mean what they THINK it means. It&#8217;s an old-fashioned concept, but very precise in its true meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: youlesucceed</title>
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		<dc:creator>youlesucceed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still seem to be at cross purposes, here. I was trying to completely disassociate &quot;edify&quot; from a basic introduction of ones upline. Suggest the introduction is no more than one would say to introduce a speaker or person to another. 

Edify does not enter into the process, in my mind. I&#039;m probably at odds with the NM industry - but so what - I don&#039;t use or relate to the term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still seem to be at cross purposes, here. I was trying to completely disassociate &#8220;edify&#8221; from a basic introduction of ones upline. Suggest the introduction is no more than one would say to introduce a speaker or person to another. </p>
<p>Edify does not enter into the process, in my mind. I&#8217;m probably at odds with the NM industry &#8211; but so what &#8211; I don&#8217;t use or relate to the term.</p>
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		<title>By: youlesucceed</title>
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		<dc:creator>youlesucceed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understood John - what I was suggesting that what one does is to &quot;introduce&quot; ones upline &quot;edify&quot; does not come into the picture - basically I don&#039;t like the word - it turns me off - I guess even if applied correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood John &#8211; what I was suggesting that what one does is to &#8220;introduce&#8221; ones upline &#8220;edify&#8221; does not come into the picture &#8211; basically I don&#8217;t like the word &#8211; it turns me off &#8211; I guess even if applied correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: John Counsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Counsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric :D

Even your more benign meaning is still uniquely US/MLM... edification is about enlightenment and inspiration. It&#039;s not something you say ABOUT someone to another person. 

It&#039;s something you say TO someone to uplift their spirits and broaden their understanding.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric <img src='http://REALnetworkmarketing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Even your more benign meaning is still uniquely US/MLM&#8230; edification is about enlightenment and inspiration. It&#8217;s not something you say ABOUT someone to another person. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s something you say TO someone to uplift their spirits and broaden their understanding.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: youlesucceed</title>
		<link>http://REALnetworkmarketing.com/2009/11/weird-wonderful-english-language/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>youlesucceed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John
  I&#039;m totally with you on this. Edify your upline - really its just giving a straight forward introduction - who they are and why they are worth listening to - no need to tart it us with a misused word.

On the curiosity approach - it hate the manipulation involved.  Had the experience quite a while ago with a distributor for xxxxx company not much doubt which one. Phoned and asked for an appointment - I asked point blank if he was from xxxxx  he said no - so went ahead - full flip chart pitch still no reference to xxxxx  at the end (and suspecting the worst) I asked him about the products involved, they not being mentioned to this point, the distributor had to go out to his car and bring back the xxxxx  catalog  (like a phone book) but he still maintained it was not xxxxx - he left quickly.
Credibility for xxxxx shot for ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John<br />
  I&#8217;m totally with you on this. Edify your upline &#8211; really its just giving a straight forward introduction &#8211; who they are and why they are worth listening to &#8211; no need to tart it us with a misused word.</p>
<p>On the curiosity approach &#8211; it hate the manipulation involved.  Had the experience quite a while ago with a distributor for xxxxx company not much doubt which one. Phoned and asked for an appointment &#8211; I asked point blank if he was from xxxxx  he said no &#8211; so went ahead &#8211; full flip chart pitch still no reference to xxxxx  at the end (and suspecting the worst) I asked him about the products involved, they not being mentioned to this point, the distributor had to go out to his car and bring back the xxxxx  catalog  (like a phone book) but he still maintained it was not xxxxx &#8211; he left quickly.<br />
Credibility for xxxxx shot for ever.</p>
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