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« on: October 26, 2008, 06:44:20 AM »

G'day gang Grin

Genealogy lists are a hot topic amongst network marketers from time to time, and people are often confused about how to best use them.

What IS a genealogy leads list?

Genealogy leads are lists of distributors with a particular network marketing company or downline organisation that has gone out of business.

A lot of network marketers buy these lists because they think that these people are suddenly left with no network marketing businesses to work with.

This may be true, but the fact is that most of them will have been inactive anyway, and the few who were active may be so annoyed because of the experience they they're in no hurry to get involved with another MLM outfit.

So they're usually poor quality lists and you can spend a lot of time, effort and money getting nothing but rejection and hostility form them.

Here's the REAL problem with them, and it's a BIG one that can cost you dearly:

While these people opted into the list as part of their membership of that expired company or downline organisation, they did NOT opt in to receive unsolicited pitches from YOU or the scores of other network marketers who've bought these lists from the unscrupulous urgers who are selling them!

They've actually been betrayed TWICE: once when the company went belly-up, then again when it broke most privacy laws and sold their distributors' personal information to third parties.

What can happen to me if I use genealogy lists?

If you send unsolicited commercial messages to these lists, you are SPAMMING them. You could lose your Internet access, and you could face prosecution under any applicable laws where you live.

In Australia, you face fines of up to $1,100,000 per message, per day (that's 1.1 MILLION dollars) under the tough anti-spam Act that has seen professional spammers in Australia wiped out almost overnight. (The first convicted spammer was hit by fines of $4.5 million. He's now out of business.) 

The other thing that can happen if you make this mistake is that you could face legal action for any damage to the reputation or sales that your action causes your service providers — especially autoresponder service.

You could also face legal action from other members of the autoresponder service for damage to their businesses as well.

It's not worth the risk, quite frankly.

Is there any way to make legal use of genealogy leads?

Yes, there is. And it's the same with ANY bought lists of leads. But this information is only provided for people who've already spent hard-earned money on genealogy leads and want to try to get some kind of meagre return on their investment. (Personally, I think you should write it off as education — and think a lot more carefully about the potential consequences of your actions before buying leads in future.)

Step 1: Send small numbers of the list members an email explaining how you acquired their names and email addresses, tell them that you have an attractive offer for them, and ask them to subscribe to YOUR mailing list if they'd like to receive it. (You can sell them on subscribing to your list, but DO NOT try to sell them on your offer in this first message.)

Send only small numbers of requests over a period of several weeks. And not repeated requests to the same people, either.

Step 2: Send the people who subscribe to your list, through a double-opt-in process, the details of your offer.

This is the ONLY way you can legally and ethically use those genealogy leads.

Always put yourself in the prospect's shoes if you're unsure of whether you should mail them or not. Did they actually ask you to contact them with your offer?

If you want to avoid the risk of being reported as a spammer, always insert that preliminary step as a courtesy.

The worst most of them will do is say "no" to you. Some will say "yes". And a LOT more will say "yes" because of your courtesy in handling the situation.

Hope this helps.


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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 11:08:05 AM »

Great advice.

Never heard of these type leads before.

Seems that you use common sense and common courtesy as a basis of how one should operate.  I like that.  Wish everbody would learn to act that way.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 12:01:51 PM »

Hi George,

Common sense and courtesy work, I find. I really don't know any other way that does work long term.

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2008, 06:27:27 PM »

Hi

  I've never really considered using these leads.  I guess there is some attraction in using them to approach people in failed organisations, but many of the lists seem to just a collection of people in any MLM company and can be quite old.  I did read one experience calling such lists - the caller had the experience of asking to speak  to a widow's dead husband, three times, and have them burst into tears over the phone.

  At least if you get near real-time lads you are spared that embarrassment.

   The only leads I've gotten anything near a favourable reaction from are Real-time-leads.

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